Comments on: When will religion END? http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/ Just another WordPress site Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:49:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jim Jones http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-2304 Jim Jones Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:11:19 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-2304 A good point that nobody is raising: One of the good observations that was brought up in the article is that as more people leave religion the ones that are left will be EXTREMISTS... Look at the Islamic faith....now that the Arab countries are more westernized with TV, Internet & mobIie devices you are seeing this in action.... The extremeists would rather people raising donkeys to eat and pull the water from the dessert well, just like in the days of their Koran-and if not then-"PEOPLE ARE INIFIDELS AND SHOULD DIE" they ate very concrete and inflexible about how people should live...evolution is about a fluid and constant adaptation, totally in line with all the evidence around us.. And to what people are commenting about being athiest as being a religion?? All I can say is that our "evidence" is not set in stone as religion..,if science proves A today and then proves B tomorrow, atheists will switch appropiatley... If a GOD came down and PROVED that he existed and created everything, all of the atheists would adapt instantly... This principle is exactly why religion is wrong...evidence is what we can prove today (and hopefully forever) if religion followed this there should only be ONE VICTORIOUS RELIGION/GOD OF THE EARTH/UNIVERSE--doesn't it bother you guys that there are soooo many religions out there?? And that most were created hundreds/thousands of years ago?? (besides the flying spaghetti monster (lol)) and that no new ones are being created now in the technology age?? I believe persinger postulates this correctly (Altho his experimental methods are questionable): that when humans finally were able to know their lives were FINITE (ie death) that they had to create something INFINITE so as to calm the anxiety of impending death... What better way to do this than to create a god...who looks after us and promises us an analgous life after death, infinite in all ways!!!...isn't it funny that ALL religions promise this?? ALL RELIGIONS PROMISE INFINITE AFTERLIFE-- A good point that nobody is raising:

One of the good observations that was brought up in the article is that as more people leave religion the ones that are left will be EXTREMISTS…

Look at the Islamic faith….now that the Arab countries are more westernized with TV, Internet & mobIie devices you are seeing this in action…. The extremeists would rather people raising donkeys to eat and pull the water from the dessert well, just like in the days of their Koran-and if not then-”PEOPLE ARE INIFIDELS AND SHOULD DIE” they ate very concrete and inflexible about how people should live…evolution is about a fluid and constant adaptation, totally in line with all the evidence around us..

And to what people are commenting about being athiest as being a religion?? All I can say is that our “evidence” is not set in stone as religion..,if science proves A today and then proves B tomorrow, atheists will switch appropiatley… If a GOD came down and PROVED that he existed and created everything, all of the atheists would adapt instantly… This principle is exactly why religion is wrong…evidence is what we can prove today (and hopefully forever) if religion followed this there should only be ONE VICTORIOUS RELIGION/GOD OF THE EARTH/UNIVERSE–doesn’t it bother you guys that there are soooo many religions out there?? And that most were created hundreds/thousands of years ago?? (besides the flying spaghetti monster (lol)) and that no new ones are being created now in the technology age??

I believe persinger postulates this correctly (Altho his experimental methods are questionable): that when humans finally were able to know their lives were FINITE (ie death) that they had to create something INFINITE so as to calm the anxiety of impending death… What better way to do this than to create a god…who looks after us and promises us an analgous life after death, infinite in all ways!!!…isn’t it funny that ALL religions promise this?? ALL RELIGIONS PROMISE INFINITE AFTERLIFE–

]]> By: jrt311 http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-1657 jrt311 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:42:54 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-1657 The way I think about it is this: a friend walks up and tells you the story of his religion. You listen and, after a brief consideration, decide you do not believe it. Does this require faith that his belief is not true? Not really. It requires faith in your own ability to reason. Since you have taken a logic class, you know that since you know you have strong reasoning skills, and through your reasoning skills you deduced that this was incorrect, you therefore have a sound logic reason for never considering the ridiculous idea for use in your own life. The way I think about it is this: a friend walks up and tells you the story of his religion. You listen and, after a brief consideration, decide you do not believe it. Does this require faith that his belief is not true? Not really. It requires faith in your own ability to reason. Since you have taken a logic class, you know that since you know you have strong reasoning skills, and through your reasoning skills you deduced that this was incorrect, you therefore have a sound logic reason for never considering the ridiculous idea for use in your own life.

]]> By: Phil E. Drifter http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-1654 Phil E. Drifter Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:34:48 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-1654 Now excuse me, I'm off to wander the mountains where two angels will meet with me and only me and tell me things that only I will know, and I will make a religion out of it, being sure to pester anyone who steps through the door for money, because LDS god, like all the rest, is all powerful and almighty, "but HE NEEDS YOUR MONEY! He'll send you to the pits of Hades for all eternity if you go against his wishes! But... he loves you!" "Religion is BULLSH¡T!" -George Carlin Now excuse me, I’m off to wander the mountains where two angels will meet with me and only me and tell me things that only I will know, and I will make a religion out of it, being sure to pester anyone who steps through the door for money, because LDS god, like all the rest, is all powerful and almighty, “but HE NEEDS YOUR MONEY! He’ll send you to the pits of Hades for all eternity if you go against his wishes! But… he loves you!”

“Religion is BULLSH¡T!” -George Carlin

]]> By: Phil E. Drifter http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-1653 Phil E. Drifter Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:31:51 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-1653 Offended? Tough sh*t. You have no right to not be offended, here or anywhere else. If you're offended by something, it's *your* fault, not whoever it was that said something that offended *you*. If *you're* offended, it's because someone has presented something that you, for some reason or another, cannot fathom; you've been bred to believe otherwise. Offended? Tough sh*t. You have no right to not be offended, here or anywhere else. If you’re offended by something, it’s *your* fault, not whoever it was that said something that offended *you*.

If *you’re* offended, it’s because someone has presented something that you, for some reason or another, cannot fathom; you’ve been bred to believe otherwise.

]]> By: Phil E. Drifter http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-1652 Phil E. Drifter Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:27:49 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-1652 Every one of us were born atheist. Then, in most cases, we are converted to one religion or another without our own consent, forced by our parents or legal guardians. These people shape our young minds, often by choosing where to send us to school. I think parochial schooling should be outlawed, as it is a form of torture and mental abuse. There is no god. Get over it. EVOLVE. Every one of us were born atheist. Then, in most cases, we are converted to one religion or another without our own consent, forced by our parents or legal guardians. These people shape our young minds, often by choosing where to send us to school.

I think parochial schooling should be outlawed, as it is a form of torture and mental abuse.

There is no god. Get over it. EVOLVE.

]]> By: Jackson Pemberton http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-401 Jackson Pemberton Sat, 22 May 2010 03:25:04 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-401 Mark, You express your hatred with such religious zeal! What's up with that??? Let me just add one thought: if believing in something I can't prove makes me religious, then the atheist is the most religious of all. Mark, You express your hatred with such religious zeal! What’s up with that??? Let me just add one thought: if believing in something I can’t prove makes me religious, then the atheist is the most religious of all.

]]> By: mark http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-400 mark Fri, 21 May 2010 21:22:39 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-400 I HATE RELIGION! I HATE RELIGION!

]]> By: mark http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-399 mark Fri, 21 May 2010 21:01:42 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-399 genius!agree with everything you say totaly. religion is pathetic if you ask me and well past its sell by date. there will be no religion in years to come as there is noo need for a god any more.thousands of years ago the idea of a "god" was in my opinion a way to explain things that couldnt be explained, e.g humans created by god,the earth,and anything that we (humans) couldnt achive or do. but as you all well know science is taking over and each day all these things that so called god created are been explained by science. if you belive that god created humans then more fool you, you should check out darwins idea of evolution. also no relgious human can give1 piece of evidence proving that there is a god! in the next few decades or less we will know that life occures everywhere in the universe and us and earth are nothing special at all. and there is no reason for a god or religion any more. science explaines everything. sory about some of the spelling. no proof,no logic,no sense,no GOD genius!agree with everything you say totaly. religion is pathetic if you ask me and well past its sell by date. there will be no religion in years to come as there is noo need for a god any more.thousands of years ago the idea of a “god” was in my opinion a way to explain things that couldnt be explained, e.g humans created by god,the earth,and anything that we (humans) couldnt achive or do. but as you all well know science is taking over and each day all these things that so called god created are been explained by science. if you belive that god created humans then more fool you, you should check out darwins idea of evolution. also no relgious human can give1 piece of evidence proving that there is a god! in the next few decades or less we will know that life occures everywhere in the universe and us and earth are nothing special at all. and there is no reason for a god or religion any more. science explaines everything. sory about some of the spelling. no proof,no logic,no sense,no GOD

]]> By: Don Cadrone http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-398 Don Cadrone Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:27:10 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-398 Sounds to me like someone put an echo to good use. Didn't Muhammad do something similar and claim it as the word of god? Sounds to me like someone put an echo to good use. Didn’t Muhammad do something similar and claim it as the word of god?

]]> By: Myriel Bienvenu http://www.the-atheist.com/when-will-religion-end/#comment-397 Myriel Bienvenu Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:31:32 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=51#comment-397 Perhaps the writer will be interested to know that there is a difference between the way Roman Catholics and Fundametalists and other religions interpret the Sacred Scriptures. We Catholics acknowledge that there are such things as metaphors, or allegory or symbolism. As such, we do not take the Scriptures literally, but rather, we try to ascertain if certain things in the Bible are literal or if they are symbolic. And he/she may also take interest in the stand of the Catholic Church concerning evolution, both cosmological and human. On cosmological evolution, the Church, in the First Vatican Council, that the universe was specially created by God out of nothing. It does not say, however, whether the stars and the planets evolved over time or came into existence with a snap of the fingers. What it does say is that if they did develop over time, then it was through the plan of God that this happened. On human evolution, the Catholic position is more firm. We allow for the evolution of man's body, of that part which is corporal and tangible, under the guidance of God, but we affirm that man's SOUL was created specially. And the Venerable Pius XII declared that "the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God." (Encyclical letter Humani Generis,"On Human Origin") So whether or not the body evolved, we affirm that the soul was specially created. Now I should like to ask questions: Why does it seem that whenever the enemies of religion attempt to suppress it, suffering inevitably occurs? Why is religion accused of being reactionary, when in fact, experience shows us that to the contrary, it is atheism which is reactionary? This statement may seem rather vague, so let me clarify. Why is it that religion, a product of continuing collections of insights and experiences which constantly moves forward and aids in the advancement of man, is accused of bringing it backward, while atheism, a heresy in the truest sense of the word, is praised as bringing it forward? Atheism is really a true heresy because it does not accumulate insights from a start, but rather, it destroys the start again and again and builds up again. How can this be called progressive? I shall await answers. Thank you very much. Perhaps the writer will be interested to know that there is a difference between the way Roman Catholics and Fundametalists and other religions interpret the Sacred Scriptures. We Catholics acknowledge that there are such things as metaphors, or allegory or symbolism. As such, we do not take the Scriptures literally, but rather, we try to ascertain if certain things in the Bible are literal or if they are symbolic. And he/she may also take interest in the stand of the Catholic Church concerning evolution, both cosmological and human.

On cosmological evolution, the Church, in the First Vatican Council, that the universe was specially created by God out of nothing. It does not say, however, whether the stars and the planets evolved over time or came into existence with a snap of the fingers. What it does say is that if they did develop over time, then it was through the plan of God that this happened.

On human evolution, the Catholic position is more firm. We allow for the evolution of man’s body, of that part which is corporal and tangible, under the guidance of God, but we affirm that man’s SOUL was created specially. And the Venerable Pius XII declared that “the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God.” (Encyclical letter Humani Generis,”On Human Origin”) So whether or not the body evolved, we affirm that the soul was specially created.

Now I should like to ask questions:

Why does it seem that whenever the enemies of religion attempt to suppress it, suffering inevitably occurs?

Why is religion accused of being reactionary, when in fact, experience shows us that to the contrary, it is atheism which is reactionary? This statement may seem rather vague, so let me clarify. Why is it that religion, a product of continuing collections of insights and experiences which constantly moves forward and aids in the advancement of man, is accused of bringing it backward, while atheism, a heresy in the truest sense of the word, is praised as bringing it forward? Atheism is really a true heresy because it does not accumulate insights from a start, but rather, it destroys the start again and again and builds up again. How can this be called progressive?

I shall await answers. Thank you very much.

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