Comments on: This is Religion, and all it stands for http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/ Just another WordPress site Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:49:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Psy http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/#comment-590 Psy Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:39:55 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=70#comment-590 It is nonsense, of course. Of course it's nonsense, it's the base of modern religion. It is nonsense, of course.

Of course it’s nonsense, it’s the base of modern religion.

]]> By: Jonathan Baker http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/#comment-589 Jonathan Baker Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:06:53 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=70#comment-589 No, it's the one about the census, Mary and Joseph riding to Bethlehem on a donkey, no room at the inn, the stable, the angels, the shepherds ... you must have heard it.... The three kings have to wait until Epiphany to arrive (that's next week in the liturgical calendar), so you can save your Sumerian nonsense for then. [It is nonsense, of course. Which Sumerian poem specifically are you referring to?] No, it’s the one about the census, Mary and Joseph riding to Bethlehem on a donkey, no room at the inn, the stable, the angels, the shepherds … you must have heard it….

The three kings have to wait until Epiphany to arrive (that’s next week in the liturgical calendar), so you can save your Sumerian nonsense for then. [It is nonsense, of course. Which Sumerian poem specifically are you referring to?]

]]> By: Psy http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/#comment-588 Psy Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:37:56 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=70#comment-588 The story of Bethlehem, isn't that the one with Orion's Belt/The Three kings? I find it interesting how Sumerian astronomy/astrology is personified into a story like that. And yes I did have a nice holiday, I hope your's was as nice. The story of Bethlehem, isn’t that the one with Orion’s Belt/The Three kings? I find it interesting how Sumerian astronomy/astrology is personified into a story like that.

And yes I did have a nice holiday, I hope your’s was as nice.

]]> By: Jonathan Baker http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/#comment-587 Jonathan Baker Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:58:25 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=70#comment-587 ... and then abandoned it when they came up with their own ideologies. If Stalin had become a priest, Mao a Buddhist monk and Pol Pot stayed Catholic, none of them would have committed the atrocities they did (at least consistently) ... Psy, you forgot Robert Mugabe, by the way, also Catholic educated. The risk of a true Christian education is precisely that it teaches you to think... (obviously fundamentalism aside). It is not hard to see how someone who understands injustice could come to hate the perpetrators. However, Christianity is abandoned at exactly the point that this one aspect becomes the cornerstone of an ideology. I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. I find it hard to believe that anyone could not just love the story of Bethlehem even if you think it a pure fairy tale.... … and then abandoned it when they came up with their own ideologies. If Stalin had become a priest, Mao a Buddhist monk and Pol Pot stayed Catholic, none of them would have committed the atrocities they did (at least consistently) … Psy, you forgot Robert Mugabe, by the way, also Catholic educated.

The risk of a true Christian education is precisely that it teaches you to think… (obviously fundamentalism aside). It is not hard to see how someone who understands injustice could come to hate the perpetrators. However, Christianity is abandoned at exactly the point that this one aspect becomes the cornerstone of an ideology.

I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. I find it hard to believe that anyone could not just love the story of Bethlehem even if you think it a pure fairy tale….

]]> By: Psy http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/#comment-586 Psy Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:11:38 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=70#comment-586 During Stalin's years at the Georgian Orthodox Seminary of Tiflis where he was studying to be a priest, he became an atheist and simply changed ideologies converting to nationalism. Mao to Pol Pot was educated in a Buddhist monastery and a private Catholic institution in Phnom Penh. These sad individuals were brainwashed with religious "morality" from a young age. During Stalin’s years at the Georgian Orthodox Seminary of Tiflis where he was studying to be a priest, he became an atheist and simply changed ideologies converting to nationalism.

Mao to Pol Pot was educated in a Buddhist monastery and a private Catholic institution in Phnom Penh.

These sad individuals were brainwashed with religious “morality” from a young age.

]]> By: Jonathan Baker http://www.the-atheist.com/this-is-religion-and-all-it-stands-for/#comment-585 Jonathan Baker Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:21:51 +0000 http://www.the-atheist.com/?p=70#comment-585 Just because some fundamentalist is prepared to go to this extreme doesn't mean that basically your average Jo God-worshipper is part of a conspiracy of "absolute fire-breathing idiots" and "misinformed imbeciles." Remember that under Communist Russia many thousands lost their lives because of their "treason" in attemping to worship God (and not the State). Let's break this down. Firstly, people attempted to kill the priests and bishops, and no doubt many of their followers, because of this statement made by an absolute bigoted idiot. People certainly died. Secondly, what on earth is treason? Who judges? Him? The prospective murderers? Their 'holy' laws? Let’s be honest, every code of law is unspecific when it comes to morality... Quite frankly, if I was an atheist and I saw this statement being made, I’d really start to reconsider the company I keep. Do I really want to be part of a movement where one of it’s more senior and influential members believes that murder is a less serious crime than going to Church a few times a week? Does that make sense to ANYONE? This is what we’re up against. Biggotry, fear and idiocy. Just because some fundamentalist is prepared to go to this extreme doesn’t mean that basically your average Jo God-worshipper is part of a conspiracy of “absolute fire-breathing idiots” and “misinformed imbeciles.”

Remember that under Communist Russia many thousands lost their lives because of their “treason” in attemping to worship God (and not the State).

Let’s break this down.

Firstly, people attempted to kill the priests and bishops, and no doubt many of their followers, because of this statement made by an absolute bigoted idiot. People certainly died. Secondly, what on earth is treason? Who judges? Him? The prospective murderers? Their ‘holy’ laws? Let’s be honest, every code of law is unspecific when it comes to morality… Quite frankly, if I was an atheist and I saw this statement being made, I’d really start to reconsider the company I keep. Do I really want to be part of a movement where one of it’s more senior and influential members believes that murder is a less serious crime than going to Church a few times a week? Does that make sense to ANYONE?

This is what we’re up against. Biggotry, fear and idiocy.

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