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		<title>By: Nathan Hodge</title>
		<link>http://www.the-atheist.com/the-bible-is-christianitys-greatest-enemy/#comment-1717</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 05:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the preacher’s grandson, I can attest to this “Sunday
school affect”, however I think stealing the quote “Christians are
the greatest cause of atheisms” is a more accurate way to explain
this. In my experience many Christians teach understanding through
faith instead of teaching faith through understanding. In the most
Christian churches/ households it is a greater sin to not believe
then it is to not understand. It should be easy to understand why
everyone should have some knowledge/ understanding about the very
thing they place their faith in, but this backward practice was put
into place to protect the “Pharisees”. Of course this is not the
philosophy taught by Jesus as described in the bible. Jesus showed
himself to be an intellectual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the preacher’s grandson, I can attest to this “Sunday<br />
school affect”, however I think stealing the quote “Christians are<br />
the greatest cause of atheisms” is a more accurate way to explain<br />
this. In my experience many Christians teach understanding through<br />
faith instead of teaching faith through understanding. In the most<br />
Christian churches/ households it is a greater sin to not believe<br />
then it is to not understand. It should be easy to understand why<br />
everyone should have some knowledge/ understanding about the very<br />
thing they place their faith in, but this backward practice was put<br />
into place to protect the “Pharisees”. Of course this is not the<br />
philosophy taught by Jesus as described in the bible. Jesus showed<br />
himself to be an intellectual.</p>
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		<title>By: The Atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.the-atheist.com/the-bible-is-christianitys-greatest-enemy/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>The Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, I forgot to include any about those with disabilities.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The LORD said to Moses,  &quot;Say to Aaron: &#039;For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God.  No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; no man with a crippled foot or hand,  or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles.  No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God.  He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food;  yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the LORD, who makes them holy.

Leviticus 21&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, I forgot to include any about those with disabilities.</p>
<blockquote><p>The LORD said to Moses,  &#8220;Say to Aaron: &#8216;For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God.  No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; no man with a crippled foot or hand,  or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles.  No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God.  He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food;  yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the LORD, who makes them holy.</p>
<p>Leviticus 21</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: The Atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.the-atheist.com/the-bible-is-christianitys-greatest-enemy/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>The Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a starter.  There are, or course, many many more heinous parts of the Bible for those who open their eyes to them.

Murdering Children: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves. And you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. Thus you shall do to all the cities that are very far from you, which are not cities of the nations here. But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded.

Deuteronomy 20:10-17&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father; or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, &quot;This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.&quot; Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Suppression of women:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.

Deuteronomy 22:20-1&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Ephesians 5:22-24&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Homosexuals:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.

Leviticus 20:13&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those who do not believe:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jesus said, “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea

Mark 9:42&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a starter.  There are, or course, many many more heinous parts of the Bible for those who open their eyes to them.</p>
<p>Murdering Children: </p>
<blockquote><p>When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves. And you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. Thus you shall do to all the cities that are very far from you, which are not cities of the nations here. But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded.</p>
<p>Deuteronomy 20:10-17</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father; or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, &#8220;This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.&#8221; Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.</p>
<p>Deuteronomy 21:18-21</p></blockquote>
<p>Suppression of women:</p>
<blockquote><p>If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.</p>
<p>Deuteronomy 22:20-1</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.</p>
<p>Ephesians 5:22-24</p></blockquote>
<p>Homosexuals:</p>
<blockquote><p>If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.</p>
<p>Leviticus 20:13</p></blockquote>
<p>Those who do not believe:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jesus said, “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea</p>
<p>Mark 9:42</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: A Curious Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.the-atheist.com/the-bible-is-christianitys-greatest-enemy/#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>A Curious Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I was reading this post, I came across a statement that intrigued me. This statement was, &quot;After all, who could subscribe to a religion that condones murdering children, the suppression of women, homosexuals, those with disabilities and those who do not believe?&quot;

A pure curiosity brings me to ask where you found the evidence to put behind this statement. I will appreciate the time you take for the answer. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was reading this post, I came across a statement that intrigued me. This statement was, &#8220;After all, who could subscribe to a religion that condones murdering children, the suppression of women, homosexuals, those with disabilities and those who do not believe?&#8221;</p>
<p>A pure curiosity brings me to ask where you found the evidence to put behind this statement. I will appreciate the time you take for the answer. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.the-atheist.com/the-bible-is-christianitys-greatest-enemy/#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am pretty sure he is referring to the way most Christians are against gay marriage. Making it illegal for Homosexuals to get married would be a form of suppression in my opinion. Of course I am not sure what he means about the suppression of the handicap or women so hopefully he explains himself or somebody who understands this better than I does.

Now for what the Bible says, I am almost positive that most of the lessons in the Bible are not made obvious. Hence all the misleading parables.

As for the child killing in the Bible, I do believe he was referring to the story of a fellow named Abraham who was told to kill his son by god as a test. Now I know that this was labeled as a &quot;test of faith&quot; in the Bible but can we really think of that as a legitimate reason to kill your child? Put yourself in Abraham&#039;s shoes for a minute, if it was me i would want to be sure that it was truly god not the devil in disguise. The god i read about in the Bible wouldn&#039;t want me to kill my child because that would be against the commandment, so i must assume that the devil is trying to pull a fast one on me just like he did Eve. Nice try devil!

Feel free to correct me if i am wrong though:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am pretty sure he is referring to the way most Christians are against gay marriage. Making it illegal for Homosexuals to get married would be a form of suppression in my opinion. Of course I am not sure what he means about the suppression of the handicap or women so hopefully he explains himself or somebody who understands this better than I does.</p>
<p>Now for what the Bible says, I am almost positive that most of the lessons in the Bible are not made obvious. Hence all the misleading parables.</p>
<p>As for the child killing in the Bible, I do believe he was referring to the story of a fellow named Abraham who was told to kill his son by god as a test. Now I know that this was labeled as a &#8220;test of faith&#8221; in the Bible but can we really think of that as a legitimate reason to kill your child? Put yourself in Abraham&#8217;s shoes for a minute, if it was me i would want to be sure that it was truly god not the devil in disguise. The god i read about in the Bible wouldn&#8217;t want me to kill my child because that would be against the commandment, so i must assume that the devil is trying to pull a fast one on me just like he did Eve. Nice try devil!</p>
<p>Feel free to correct me if i am wrong though:)</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so your argument goes like this:

1.) If it is the case that many Christians don&#039;t read the Bible, then the Bible and Christianity is false.
2.) Many Christians don&#039;t read the Bible.
_________________________________________

3.) Therefore, the Bible and Christianity are false.

Now, i won&#039;t go into detail why this argument is fallacious (hopefully because it is obvious) but i will say a few things about your statements.


&quot;After all, who could subscribe to a religion that condones murdering children, the suppression of women, homosexuals, those with disabilities and those who do not believe?&quot;

The bible doesn&#039;t condone any of these things. The Bible says nothing about suppressing women or homosexuals. The Bible never says, &quot;When you see a woman or a homosexual, supress them!.&quot; Also, the Bible definately doesn&#039;t say, &quot;Kill children, suppress the handicap (are you serious?) and suppress those who don&#039;t believe.&quot;

If you could show some evidence, in the Bible, of course, where these things are stated, that would be great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so your argument goes like this:</p>
<p>1.) If it is the case that many Christians don&#8217;t read the Bible, then the Bible and Christianity is false.<br />
2.) Many Christians don&#8217;t read the Bible.<br />
_________________________________________</p>
<p>3.) Therefore, the Bible and Christianity are false.</p>
<p>Now, i won&#8217;t go into detail why this argument is fallacious (hopefully because it is obvious) but i will say a few things about your statements.</p>
<p>&#8220;After all, who could subscribe to a religion that condones murdering children, the suppression of women, homosexuals, those with disabilities and those who do not believe?&#8221;</p>
<p>The bible doesn&#8217;t condone any of these things. The Bible says nothing about suppressing women or homosexuals. The Bible never says, &#8220;When you see a woman or a homosexual, supress them!.&#8221; Also, the Bible definately doesn&#8217;t say, &#8220;Kill children, suppress the handicap (are you serious?) and suppress those who don&#8217;t believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you could show some evidence, in the Bible, of course, where these things are stated, that would be great!</p>
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