Teaching an important lesson

photo credit: Max Choong
I know that there are many readers of this blog who are “of faith”. Some, I respect for their willingness to enter into open discussion about their religion, and I accept that for some people, religion is a necessary part of their lives. There are other people, however, who can’t see past blind faith. And these people really need educating. So let’s take a look at the most recent example, a group of people, based in Washington D.C believe that fuel prices have fallen because they hold regular prayer sessions at gas stations.
So let’s teach these people a basic rule of the universe. Causation does not equal correlation. It’s quite simple, and best illustrated by the Simpsons. The crux is that if I do a rain dance, rain falling does not prove that my rain dance has worked. It’s a classic mistake made for those looking for proof of religion. If they pray for something to happen, and then it does, religious people will assume causation. That their prayers caused the change to happen. The problem with this is that, if you believe your prayers have been answered and there is causation there, you also have to accept that every time you pray and it isn’t answered, it’s one mark in the column that’s headed “There is no God”. And there’s no way I’ll accept any response to this that says “God moves in mysterious ways”, contains the words “grand plan/scheme” or makes any reference to free will. Because if there was a God, these would surely be the most inane, selfish, prayers to answer.


Lets flip this a bit. Sure no one can prove that there is a religion/god/prayer whatever… but is there someone that can prove otherwise?
Why is it so “cool” lately to deny someone something that makes them happy or completes them? If your car or shoes or whatever help you out in life, is it my place to go and burn those items in the name of environment or whatever excuse I make?
I couldn’t agree with you more. I have known people who have selfishly prayed to be dismissed from jury duty and then praise god for his divine intervention when they get the dismissal notice. I know of another woman who prayed for a yogurt shop to open up nearby her house. It did and she took credit. Unanswered prayers are explained as not being in god’s will or his plan. Selfish sheep.
Okay I stumbled across this site through google and now I’m finding myself commenting on everything (good work, website designers).
I pray sometimes, and as far as I can remember, all my prayers have been answered. Not saying it proves anything or is an amazing series of coincidence, and I generally don’t pray for yoghurt or cheap petrol, but yeah, all my prayers have been answered.
I believe that before the foundation of the world God determined whatsoever shall come to pass. He is in charge. He is the Author. The events in our daily lives fall in line according to His plan. So therefore I believe that if we are praying for something,…maybe healing for my mother, it was already determined. That is, the moment and circumstance that she would be healed or die. If we think that the power is in our hand, and she is healed, we might say yeah prayer works (and I did it). If she is not healed we could say prayer doesn’t work, and there is no God. Praying is gaining intimacy with God, and dependency on His strength and His plan…not ours. God’s plan could be compared to a tapestry. We see the threads on the under side. They look crazy and incomplete to us. He (being the creator of the tapestry) sees the finished product on the top side.
By the way, my mother was not healed and she died. She was a believer in the salvation of Christ, and she is with Him, and without pain sorrow or want. That so pleases me to know she is there with Him, more than it would please me to have her here with me. I miss her dearly.
I could say God did not answer my prayer, there is no God, He’s mean… but knowing God is good, and there is a greater plan than mine is such a comfort to me. So I don’t question myself…Did I pray enough?