On a more realistic note, what if god did exist, but simply transfered dimentions, that is to say, god was once in our dimention, then simply moved on after it finished its fun around here or something. Or, it started focusing on the dark matter ‘world’ which we can not percieve, or something to that effect.

That could be possible, although it assumes when god ‘finished’ it thought it finished, and didn’t realise over time people wouldn’t care. Meaning, either the assumption that god knows all is wrong, or god never existed.

Moving to something more realistic, what if God simply died (or lost its abilities) after the big bang? That is entire possible, for we don’t know what created the stuff that created the big bang. Although that leads us back to the argument ‘if god is not all powerful, why call it god?’, which will lead to the ‘god is energy not an incarnation’, which will lead us to a whole other set of topics.

Personally, I don’t believe there is a god, and I don’t believe we need one.

I’ve come to the conclusion that humans, one way or another, percieve our world, and process it through different cognative processes. If that involves believing in a higher power, or the cycle of nature, or some sort of incarnation, so be it. But at the end of the day, it isn’t what we believe that matters, but how it shapes our actions and reactions towards changes in an individuals internal and external environment.

To dwell on anything else is as elementary as my spelling capabilities

The heart of man has been the same for well over 100 years. Its clear to see, as far back as we can look that man has been screwed up and has been chasing money, sex, fame, power, and stuff forever. And it has led us nowhere. I don’t think society will change at all in the next 100 years. We will still pursue the same meaningless things that have left our parents unfulfilled, as well was theirs, and theirs before them. No advances in science or technology have changed that fact.

“for example, xianity must be true since my belief and that of others have made positive changes in our lives.”

so lives changed by faith in something isn’t evidence? If that’s not what is? someone being healed? someone being raised from the dead?
Because that happens.

i know stats don’t prove anything. but do plays on words like- can god create a rock so heavy he cant lift it? – really prove anything either?

You also have to look at the specific circumstances involved. You cite one example against the average, I’m sure, even if the quoted figure is accurate, there are many more examples of rehab clinics that use theistic values and have far lower success rates than non-theistic ones. Something we do know is that teaching theistic values to teens results in higher rates of unplanned pregnancies. But one can use statistics to “prove” almost anything.

also there was the protestant “revival” in the 80s. God suddenly became very alive again.

you could dismiss the first as a nice story, and the second as a rave. here’s a real statistic-

most rehab centers average success rate is less than 50%. Teen challenge, a christian rehab program that brings God into the picture, has a success rate of 86%. is god dead?

But God as a ‘real’ entity ?? Are they joking ??

Nope, he’s long gone, if, in fact, he ever even was….

God can no more die than Sherlock Holmes can die. They are fictional characters.

When Nietzsche had his own fictionalized Zarathustra utter the now notorious “God is dead,” he intended to convey “that the belief in the Christian God has become unbelievable.” God is literally in-credible.

America is 100 years behind Europe in grasping cultural realities. Only one of which is “the death of God.”

In backwater America primitive assertions abound — for example, xianity must be true since my belief and that of others have made positive changes in our lives.

Members of any sect within islam, xianity, judaism, or zoroastrianism (the Big4 monster-theisms) can cite their myths, cultic practices, endlessly circular magical texts, and fifth-rate fan fiction (“theologies”) to equal effect.

What uplifts me, what comforts me, what I’m willing to die for . . . is no evidence whatsoever that my belief is true or false.

Xianity cannot be refuted. (Could you refute “The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes”?)

Xianity can only be dismantled. The de-deification of culture (including the sciences) is our task for the next 100 years.

anti-supernaturalist

Most Christians in America don’t have to, and just don’t, rely on God for anything. We are our own god’s. We get hungry – we go to the store. We don’t even believe God will/can provide for us. And God doesn’t need to prove to us He exists. He is God. And everything Jesus did and raising Him from the dead should be enough. And so I’m not surprised at God’s not doing a ton of miracles everywhere because it isn’t biblical. Every instance in the bible where Jesus healed someone it was because of their faith.

“When He (Jesus) had gone indoors the blind men came to Him, and He asked them, ‘Do you believe that I am able to do this?’ ‘Yes Lord,’ they replied. Then He touched their eyes and said, “According to your faith will it be done to you.” (matthew 9:28) This is just one example.

I think to say God is dead based on that WE don’t see Him doing huge spectacles is incorrect. I think God is acting the way He has proved to be for thousands of years. God hasn’t changed. We have.

Like I said, we don’t believe. And its sad that many believers will put their salvation in Christ but not believe anything of the power He says they have in His name. That’s the point I am at in my faith. I haven’t seen paralytics get up and walk, but I’ve seen lives changed and the more I seek God the more I find.

I encourage you to keep searching. And read the bible… it may surprise you. Or give you more ammo to unload on dumb Christians.